Labour Pains

[steepholm]

In a locked post today an LJ friend makes a number of characteristically interesting points about the EU referendum and its likely aftermath, most of which I agree with. However, I'm not so sure about his assertion that Jeremy Cobyn is "toast", no-confidence motion or no.

It's true that Corbyn has never been very gung-ho about the EU as an institution, and his support for Remain (much like my own, which may bias me) always had a tinge of "The EU may not be great, but the alternative you're being offered is hell of a lot worse" - which may not be a cry to get the blood up, but has the merit of being true, or at least honestly meant. Unlike some of those who now wish to depose him, he never coasted in the slipstream of the Brexiteers' anti-immigrant rhetoric, but pointed out that immigrants actually more than pay their own way in taxes, and that if local services are stretched that's because of cuts imposed by Government, who wish to spend the nation's wealth in other ways. Conversely, he didn't connive in the lie - known to be such by both tellers and told - that one could set an arbitrary upper limit to immigration under freedom of movement rules.

So, what he had to say - about preserving workers' rights, environmental protections, opportunities for young people, and the rest from racist demagogues like Farage and Johnson - was pretty reasonable.

But perhaps he didn't say it enough? In fact, the BBC (and a fortiori the rest of the media) went out of its way not to report his many appearances up and down the country. Take this screenshot from a couple of weeks ago, on the day he was due to give a big remain speech. If you look very carefully you may spot the very small headline mentioning that he is going to be speaking, somewhere near the very big headline about a union leader complaining of his silence.



Later that day, after the speech had been given, this was the BBC news front page. See how long it takes you to spot the mention of Corbyn's speech.



So, anyway, now there's a move to unseat him for not leading a vigorous enough campaign for Remain. Note that the reason Labour lost the last election was in large part the defection of many of their traditional working-class English voters to UKIP or Netflix on polling day. And now, they propose to reverse this trend by replacing Corbyn with someone more outspokenly pro-EU? I can't see how that works at all.

I also don't think the coup will work - the membership won't allow it.

Though, admittedly, my record on political prognostication is pretty dire.

How about directing your fire at the enemy for a change, comrades?

Comments

[puddleshark.livejournal.com]

Yes. The media did an excellent job of shutting Jeremy Corbyn in a soundproof box, and the next Labour leader will have exactly the same problem.

[oho.livejournal.com]

I propose to replace Corbyn by Netflix and all problems solved - if of works for UKIP it should work for Labour. If a child can read a line, you can read it to . ... I hope I made my point.

However my vote will be with a party of individualists, if they can ever form a party of course .... after Brexit I just can not afford anymore letting my neighbours define my and my child future as the mess it brought us in already costs jobs for 3 of my employees I have to let go next week.


[sorry for edits, I type on my mobile]

[kalimac.livejournal.com]

It's not whether Corbyn was reported as having said anything, it's his position in the light of his own record and past affiliations. When you've spent your career being negative towards an institution, defending it when push finally comes to shove makes you sound like what's known in psychopathology as an enabler. Even if that's not fair, it's what it sounds like.

I know what direction the Tory leadership has to go in, i.e. anti-EU, but I don't see how, considering the possible candidates and that they'd have to lead a hostile parliamentary party. I don't see what direction the Labour leadership has to go in, but more firmly pro-EU sounds entirely plausible, given that marching firmly in the most unpopular direction has a long tradition in the Labour Party.

[ron-broxted.livejournal.com]

Your fave nationality (de Poles) on Channel 4 on about WW2.
1. No Jew could hold a commission prior to 1940.
2. Kielce, 1946. Pogrom.
3. They are total and utter (cont p.52)

[heliopausa.livejournal.com]

I am very sorry indeed.

[wosny.livejournal.com]

You have succinctly voiced how I feel about Corbyn, and was trying to tell my partner, who was full of "Corbyn is responsible for the Labour Leave voters, because his campaign was so lacklustre."
However I am an outsider, and just looking into applying for French citizenship, not because I specially want to be French but if Boris and Trump get elected I really, really don't want Marine Le Penn to make the trio!

[kalimac.livejournal.com]

Here's a pundit (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/06/brexit-eu/488597/) who thinks Corbyn's going to go. Of course, said pundit is an American Republican. I'm hoping not to find a pattern whereby one's opinion of Corbyn's chances parallels one's liking for his policies.