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steepholm ([personal profile] steepholm) wrote2015-07-06 01:58 pm
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The Host with the Most?

A few posts ago I was maundering on about the rain falling on just and unjust alike, and whether that saying would have had the same connotations in the relatively arid climate where it was coined as it now carries in my own soggier corner of the world. I suppose my next question is rather similar, though more doctrinally central: just how common was it to drink wine in first-century Palestine?

Clearly they had several skinfuls at the Cana wedding, and at the Last Supper too, but those were special occasions. Was it an everyday drink for your ordinary Joe? Or a luxury good? It makes a big difference to the significance of the Eucharist. If wine is the drinking equivalent of bread - the most staple of staples - then that gives it one kind of significance. But if it's seen as something special, that gives it another.

Even if wine flowed freely and cheaply in Jesus's particular time and place, that certainly hasn't always been the case in the cultures to which Christianity has been introduced. It must have been another story in beer-drinking countries such as Egypt and Germany, for example. The same goes for England, where wine was seen as a posh drink until very recent times. Telling an Anglo-Saxon peasant to drink wine in memory of Christ must have conveyed a very different message from telling a first-century Roman to do the same.

Christopher Marlowe is said to have joked that the Eucharist "would have bin much better being administred in a Tobacco pipe" - and after all, why not? One for the alternative historians, perhaps.

[identity profile] ethelmay.livejournal.com 2015-07-07 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think C.S. Lewis records a conversation in his journal that discusses an aspect of that very issue. They were talking about how far you could look at a text in isolation, and someone remarked that you had to know the language, after all, and that implied context -- did "breakfast" mean ham and eggs at eight, or a piece of bread and a handful of olives at dawn? Was wine the drink of the people, or only of aristocrats? Something along those lines.

[identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com 2015-07-08 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I find very often that CSL has been there first...