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steepholm ([personal profile] steepholm) wrote2019-12-14 06:02 am
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You and I have memories, longer than the road that stretches out ahead

I took a day off before commenting on the election, and perhaps should have taken more. Many over on Facebook seem very sure of what went wrong and why, and particularly of who to blame, but I’ll say up front that this is a tentative and provisional assessment. I’m making it now, however, because I suspect that the next tide of events will wipe out of some of these impressions.

Labour’s campaign. I’ve heard several people who want to put the blame for the loss entirely on Brexit point out that it couldn’t have been the fault of the campaign or of Corbyn, because they were essentially unchanged from 2017, when Labour did far better than expected, rather than worse. That, however, is part of the problem - it was something of a repeat performance, and couldn’t hope to have the revelatory freshness of two years ago: even the campaign slogan was recycled. Also, although Corbyn did numerous outdoor events that were well attended (including a very successful rally here in Bristol a few days ago), the fact that it was happening in a cold, wet season, which gets dark at 4.30, meant that the kind of stump campaigning where he excels was necessarily limited. In studio interviews he was far less effective: there were no major gaffes, but he often came across as querulous; and while he was competent enough in the debates, he failed to deliver any killer blow. I know that politicians these days are schooled to stick to a few key messages (e.g. the NHS), but I wish he had done more to highlight the obvious weaknesses of the Tories (their abject economic failure, the many lies and broken promises of their leader, etc.).

Brexit. This was almost certainly the most important factor. Both major parties were split by Brexit, but there was an asymmetry that was fatal for Labour. Johnson could afford to be ruthless with his remain wing (sacking 22 MPs, for example) and still be sure that a) he’d keep the vast majority of Tory voters, and b) maybe attract some Leave-supporting Labour voters into the bargain. Corbyn’s voters were split far more evenly, and he had to try to please both, with the predictable result. Nor could he count on picking up disaffected Tory Remainers in the way that Johnson could absorb Labour leavers, since they had an alternative home in the form of the LibDems. Finally, the Brexit party was able to mop up a small but, in many constituencies, decisive number of Labour leavers who couldn’t bring themselves to vote Tory. The idea, being floated by several FB friends, that Labour would have walked the election had it been led by a centrist Remainer, just doesn’t stack up: anyone would have been caught on this particular forked stick, and the only comforts are that a) by the next election Brexit will, presumably, not be an issue and b) many of those Tory majorities in Labour heartlands are very small and eminently win-backable. (I do think, though, that Corbyn would have been far better advised to promise a quick referendum on Johnson’s deal vs. Remain, rather than offering to negotiate a Leave deal of his own, which he would then be neutral on. The effect of that was beyond messy.)

Mendacity and the media. I’m not going to complain about media bias, which in the UK is just a fact of political life - most obviously, but by no means exclusively, in the printed press. However, the media as a whole, and broadcasters in particular, appear to have been badly wrongfooted (why I don’t know, since it was entirely predictable) by the Tory policy of mendacity on a Trump/Bannon scale. In interview after interview, Johnson and others were allowed to lie unchallenged, as well as being able to renege on agreements (e.g. the Andrew Neil interview) without consequence. BBC reporting was particularly supine, Channel 4 rather more robust. When Johnson denied that there would be checks for goods entering N. Ireland, for example, contradicting the deal that he had himself reached with the EU, the BBC website tucked the fact that it was untrue into the tenth paragraph of its report, headlining instead with Johnson’s words. Another example, that in some ways sums up the rest, is the reporting in recent days of the result of a fact-checking investigation into campaign ads, which showed that 88% of Tory ads had contained untrue statements, the figure for Labour being 0%. The BBC website apparently thought that balanced reporting of this finding required them to state that there had been mendacity “across the political spectrum.” That is not what good journalism looks like, and in times like these we need good journalism.

I’m sure there are other important factors, but these three seem to me the most decisive, with the second probably preeminent. If I have time, I may do a second post to pair with this one, looking to the future - but it will be shorter.
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[personal profile] cmcmck 2019-12-14 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
I was unable to vote Labour for the first time in my voting life.

Anti Semitism and you know why.

I think there were a dozen and one little issues aside from the obvious that leeched votes from Labour.

Biggest of all the Londonification of the party which when you live in the West Midlands becomes a huge issue!

My own background is council estate working class, so..............



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[personal profile] calimac 2019-12-14 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
There are two sorts of Jews, politically, in the US. The ones I grew up with and count myself among were raised to believe in social justice and the healing of the world (which the learned among our number parse as specifically Jewish theological concepts), which consequently leans us towards progressive politics. We're also uncomfortably aware that gentiles who other-ize groups as hate objects (here, Hispanics and Muslims) historically turn to the Jews next, and there's been some evidence of this among Trump's "very good people."

The other sort are neocons who believe that, since Trump and Bibi are friends, we should all support Trump and profess themselves puzzled why the rest of us don't.

There's a strong, though not overwhelming, correlation between secular and religiously liberal Jews in the first category, and Modern Orthodox and Hasidim in the second.

I suspect parallels in the British Jewish community. (It may also be necessary to explain that the Chief Rabbi is only the spokesperson for a large group of Orthodox synagogues. He is not anything like a Jewish equivalent of the Pope, even just within the UK.)
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2019-12-14 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Polling suggests that Corbyn was a bigger factor than Brexit, I think, although obviously it can't be discounted (and I'm inclined to think Labour were going to be in Brexit trouble whatever they did).
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2019-12-14 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Corbyn was relatively new two years ago; there was still a level of excitement and interest about someone who looked different. By this year that had all worn off, whereas people's misgivings about him had got stronger.

There's also the factor that Labour ran a very scattershot and poorly focussed campaign, which isn't to do with how Corbyn was perceived on the doorstep, but does have something to do with his performance as a leader:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/13/inside-labours-campaign-behind
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2019-12-14 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That said, I suspect there's probably an element of geographical variation. There will certainly be constituencies where Brexit was the lead factor, but Corbyn was also a huge factor. I'm tying to find that polling data I saw earlier, but I can't at the moment.
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[personal profile] sovay 2019-12-14 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
However, the media as a whole, and broadcasters in particular, appear to have been badly wrongfooted (why I don’t know, since it was entirely predictable) by the Tory policy of mendacity on a Trump/Bannon scale.

I just finished reading this article on the "'firehose of falsehood' propaganda model"; it seems relevant.