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steepholm ([personal profile] steepholm) wrote2020-08-24 07:43 am
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Neither Here Nor There

I've been looking at this review of a book on Shakespeare's sonnets. The writers have come up with what they seem to consider a startling conclusion: “Some of these sonnets are addressed to a female and others to a male. To reclaim the term bisexual seems to be quite an original thing to be doing.”

Is it, though? Really? Isn't it actually the most obvious conclusion? Other readings are possible, but all require a degree of wrenching. Why would anyone find it implausible that a man who wrote poems of love and sexual desire to both men and women (or to at least one of each) was romantically and sexually attracted to both men and women?

Occasionally I'm reminded that resistance to the idea of bisexuality still exists. I have to be reminded, because it seems such an absurd thing to be sceptical of that I have difficulty retaining the fact. Women and men are pretty similar in many ways, after all - much more like each other than either is like, say, shoes, yet apparently no one has any trouble believing in heterosexual shoe fetishists.

Perhaps it reflects a more fundamental preference for binary choices. I dare say I could come up with many examples, but here's one that's fresh in my mind. A few months ago I was in a research seminar on an article about George Herbert's The Temple. According to the article, the scholarly orthodoxy had been that the architectural structure of the book (which is divided into sections such as 'The Porch', 'The Altar', and so on) was purely metaphorical; but our author argued that, as a rural vicar, Herbert was very concerned with the literal fabric of his church, too. The answer to the question, 'Is the temple in The Temple metaphorical or literal?' turns out to be, 'A bit of both.'

It's convincing, but frankly I didn't need to be convinced. My immediate reaction was one of surprise that everybody didn't already take that for granted. Flattering as it would be to conclude that all this makes me a particularly subtle and clever thinker, I don't buy it, because these thoughts aren't subtle at all - on the contrary, they take (what seems to me) the path of least resistance through the texts. It's all a bit of mystery.
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[personal profile] oursin 2020-08-24 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
How is that news??? People have been noticing that for a very long time indeed.
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[personal profile] oursin 2020-08-24 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Next up: did Lord Byron have somewhat unbrotherly feelings towards his sister...?
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[personal profile] strange_complex 2020-08-24 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks like a classic case of academics over-exaggerating the originality of their own arguments for the sake of the REF / their general scholarly profile, and a popular journalist leaping on and further exaggerating the most 'salacious' bit.

It's all rather undermined by the fact that Shakespeare's bisexuality is so common a premise that it was the subject of a joke in Doctor Who. They reckoned 57 academics had a stake in the question, which sounds closer to the mark.
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[personal profile] calimac 2020-08-24 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The part that I needed explained to me before I got it was that the male character in the clip is supposed to be Shakespeare.
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[personal profile] calimac 2020-08-24 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the persona in which he wrote the sonnets appears to have been bisexual. That persona may have reflected himself, but that's an assumption.
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[personal profile] sovay 2020-08-24 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
“Some of these sonnets are addressed to a female and others to a male. To reclaim the term bisexual seems to be quite an original thing to be doing.”

Yeah, that statement strikes me as kind of tautological.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2020-09-19 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
What I want to know is who is reclaiming the term, and from whom? I feel I am lacking a bit of context here, and am uncertain the author is clear on the matter either.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2020-08-24 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"Bisexual" wasn't really a concept in Shakespeare's time but "romantically and sexually attracted to both men and women" sure was. It's not just in the sonnets, it's in like half his plays! At least!

That's about as original an idea as "But what if Hamlet wasn't just faking madness???"