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steepholm ([personal profile] steepholm) wrote2022-11-06 09:05 pm
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In the Stairwell

I'm currently in Antwerp - the first time I've set foot on the continent since 2019, and that was only to change planes. I'm in a hotel near city's impressive basilica of a railway station, with an anchovy-laden pizza decocting quietly in my stomach. It's only a brief visit, though, to give a lecture; tomorrow, back to Birmingham and thence Bristol.

It's really embarrassing a) how little I find I'm able to use French (I never had Flemish) and b) how little it matters, everyone else being fluent in English. I seem to have the kind of brain that can only hold one foreign language at a time, and of course that's currently Japanese. I thought I was doing okay when I arrived at the hotel and introduced myself as Catherine Butler in a half-decent accent, but then heard myself add involuntarily, "desu" - a real confidence knocker.

Actually, most of the French I need is hidden somewhere in my head, but to get at it I need to heave the Japanese out of the way, and more often than not a residual layer of German too - and by then the moment's passed. A few seconds too late, I remember what it was I wanted to say, but now it's no more than a case of l'esprit d'escalier.

The irony isn't lost on me.
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[personal profile] flemmings 2022-11-06 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)

Oh god, yes. It's not merely that I get Japanese vocab when I want French, I get two kinds of Japanese vocab. So while I'm reaching for French, please French, my brain is waffling between desu-masu and keigo.

Seriously, how do the Swiss manage to be trilingual?

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[personal profile] calimac 2022-11-06 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I found in Germany that when I ran out of German or was too exhausted to remember, I reverted to Spanish which lay further down in my brain memory than German.

Then I learned a little Italian to go there, and found that my reversion was to German.
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[personal profile] heleninwales 2022-11-07 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
If you're using more than one (or two) languages all the time, the brain keeps them all current and will happily switch between them. But if you learn them sequentially and only use one non-native language at a time, the previous ones seem to go dormant. Not that I ever could speak French, but it's well buried now, but I'm doing OK learning a bit of Spanish while using Welsh and English every day.
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[personal profile] cmcmck 2022-11-07 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice place Antwerpen.

[identity profile] hoodcp.wordpress.com 2022-11-08 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
I find speaking Japanese in France is a very good way to ensure that they remember that they also speak English better than I can remember my French from when I was 16! LOL
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[personal profile] cmcmck 2022-11-08 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
The hub and I both speak reasonable French and I recall being in a shop in Dijon where the boss knew we both spoke the language and she had a shop full of Japanese tourists who fondly thought they were speaking French.

The boss asked us (in French) 'what language are they speaking?' :o)
Edited 2022-11-08 18:32 (UTC)