I've been away in the Midlands, primarily to attend my aunt Naomi's funeral - which went well. It took place at Stafford Crematorium, which turns out to be just three miles from Great Haywood (better known to Tolkien aficionados as Tavrobel), where I was obliged to ask directions, for it is a puzzling piece of country in which meandering roads wind aimlessly over dead straight waterways (via awfully narrow bridges), thus reversing the proper order of nature.
The night before the funeral I stayed with friends at nearby Alrewas. There, I was shown this book, from which my friend had learned to read - though not spell - in the 1960s.

I posted before on the abortive Shavian attempt at English spelling reform. The Initial Teaching Alphabet was a less ambitious scheme, which flourished in Britain (and elsewhere) for about 10 years from the mid-'60s, and was intended to get children reading before they made the move to standard English texts and spelling; but it looks much the same, inasmuch as it's a largely phonemic script. (It's also all in lower case.) I'd heard of it before, but never actually seen it being used to bring great literature to life.
It's hard to believe anyone thought this would be a good idea. Did any of my LJ friends learn to read this way? How was it for you?
I also passed very near to Abbots Bromley. This September I must make an effort finally to see the Horn Dance.
The night before the funeral I stayed with friends at nearby Alrewas. There, I was shown this book, from which my friend had learned to read - though not spell - in the 1960s.

I posted before on the abortive Shavian attempt at English spelling reform. The Initial Teaching Alphabet was a less ambitious scheme, which flourished in Britain (and elsewhere) for about 10 years from the mid-'60s, and was intended to get children reading before they made the move to standard English texts and spelling; but it looks much the same, inasmuch as it's a largely phonemic script. (It's also all in lower case.) I'd heard of it before, but never actually seen it being used to bring great literature to life.
It's hard to believe anyone thought this would be a good idea. Did any of my LJ friends learn to read this way? How was it for you?
I also passed very near to Abbots Bromley. This September I must make an effort finally to see the Horn Dance.
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Date: 2012-06-27 07:21 am (UTC)My brother, who is 3.5 years younger, experienced the unfortunate combination of being profoundly dyslexic (undiagnosed until his 40s) and being taught with flashcards that I'm convinced, having followed your link, were ITA. I definitely remember them having symbols that were not part of the alphabet as I knew it. For him reading has always been such hard work that it was not something he'd do for pleasure. (Aids for the dyslexia have changed this.)
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Date: 2012-06-27 10:27 am (UTC)I do think that ITA and dyslexia must have been a difficult combination - at least, combined with the later switch to conventional spelling.
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Date: 2012-06-27 10:38 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-06-26 11:25 pm (UTC)My father was once the policeman in charge of supervising the Horn Dance, but it was on a school day, so I never went.
Mid-Staffordshire is not at all well-known - it's just the bit that isn't the Potteries or the Black Country to most folks. I was brought up there (in ten different houses and eight schools) so I have some affection for it. The roads mostly follow old field boundaries, I think. I'm glad the funeral went well. Both of my maternal grandparents were seen off there - despite being extremely Welsh they lived out their last five or six decades in Stafford.
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Date: 2012-06-27 07:27 am (UTC)My Alrewas friend grew up not far away in Aldridge, so clearly some Staffs schools at least were teaching using ITA. It's not an area I know well, although I did have several childhood holidays with relatives in the Black Country (Wolverhampton to be precise). I think you're right about the field boundaries: it reminded me a bit of parts of north Somerset in that respect.
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Date: 2012-06-27 08:55 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-06-26 11:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-06-27 08:55 am (UTC)"There's a bloke here behind taking down every blessed word you're saying."
Date: 2012-06-27 02:07 am (UTC)One of these years, I would love to see the Horn Dance in the wild. I love the intensely eerie version done at Revels, but that's faux-mythic not folkloric.
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Date: 2012-06-27 08:55 am (UTC)Re: "There's a bloke here behind taking down every blessed word you're saying."
Date: 2012-06-28 06:30 am (UTC)Nine
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Date: 2012-06-27 05:59 am (UTC)ETA - sorry when I say 'sternly told' that is just a joke, unfair to my teachers, I was gently encouraged to stick to the rational and sensible ITA system as I was not 'ready' for the real alphabet.
I often wonder whether my lifelong poor spelling is linked to ITA but no, I think I am just careless and hasty in all things.
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Date: 2012-06-27 09:24 am (UTC)Anecdotal evidence is thick on the ground, but it's hard to be sure. I will ask my education colleagues whether there's research out there on the long-term effectiveness (or not) of the method.
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Date: 2012-06-28 12:39 pm (UTC)I don't know whether there has since been any research on long-lasting influences in spelling skills extending into adulthood, but even by the early 70s it had been found that though kids did learn to read faster initially, after a couple of years there was no detectable difference between those taught using ita and those taught using conventional spelling and alphabet. Thus when you took into account having to have special books printed and the confusion it caused parents, there was no real advantage and the scheme quietly died.
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Date: 2012-06-28 12:45 pm (UTC)Or in other words, the most important factor in learning to read was a keen and committed teacher who was determined to prove their method was best! I suspect that this explains why these phonics schemes appear to do so well. They're not actually better, it's just that the advocates of the system are working hard to prove that they're better.
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Date: 2012-06-28 12:49 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-06-28 12:57 pm (UTC)And yes, you're right that these schemes include assumptions about correct (or at least standard) pronunciation, that certainly aren't going to apply across the board. An interesting one here (though you may need to look at the photo full-size to see it) is that there is a little squiggle on the 'r' of 'mother', to indicate a retroflex 'r'. This intrigued me, because of course that 'r' isn't pronounced at all in RP (although it is in West Country and some other regional British accents), and I was slightly surprised that they included it. Then I remembered that the ITA was, although a British invention, marketed to other Anglophone countries, notably the USA, where of course that 'r' is standard.
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Date: 2012-06-27 07:16 am (UTC)For myself, it was good ol' Janet 'n' John although I was reading by about three anyway.
I've seen the horn dance a couple of times- it is truly strange and fascinating.
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Date: 2012-06-27 09:08 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-06-27 07:42 am (UTC)My husband learned to read with the ITA system and blames it for his complete inability to spell.
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Date: 2012-06-27 09:22 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-06-27 08:29 am (UTC)I had trouble spelling, which was put down to ita. I learned to spell in the end by the old fashioned method of clapping a rythym (my grandma taught me). The irony was that when I was 21 they figured out I was dyslexic. Ita had helped disguise it because it was a suitable scapegoat (mind you, the other thing that helped disguise it was the speed with which I picked up word recognition/word capture, including realising some letters were silent: unfortunately I often picked the wrong letters: Dennis the Menace and G(n)asher anyone?)
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Date: 2012-06-27 09:06 am (UTC)That problem of disguising dyslexia must have been a fairly widespread one, I think.
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Date: 2012-06-27 11:45 am (UTC)I learnt to read at three and a half at home and learned proper English.
I scored a lot better than he did.
My grandmother's family were from Alrewas.
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Date: 2012-06-27 07:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-06-27 08:08 pm (UTC)As I could already read my Dorset teacher just did the sensible thing and let me read the Ladybird books two or three years older than my chronological age.
I still have spelling problems but ITA wasn't the cause. I just went through school in the top English stream as the rest of my English was great and I got embarassed every time there was a spelling test.
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Date: 2012-06-27 07:13 pm (UTC)I think it's sort of fascinating that a largely phonemic script still uses apostrophes to indicate the possessive.
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