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I enjoyed watching Arcadia the other day. Like so many of Stoppard's plays it benefits from being seen as well as read, and this was a good production. At the same time - and this is a criticism of neither play nor performance - it seemed that the play didn't leave those involved much room for manoeuvre. I suppose I've not watched many modern plays in recent years, but compared with, say, Shakespeare (my more usual fare) I couldn't help but feel the text boxing in the actors and director quite confiningly. Most obviously in the case of Arcadia this relates to period: no director is going to "refresh" that play by setting it in ancient Rome or 1930s Chicago, given the nature of the text's relationship with specific times in history. And no doubt that's a good thing, but still - is there a corresponding loss? In some ways I feel stupid even raising the question: after all, Arcadia is firmly locked into its two historical periods: the coming of the picturesque style in the early 1800s, the craze for chaos theory a couple of centuries (give or take) later. Who would want to set it in other periods? But then, isn't Julius Caesar equally locked into the first century BCE by virtue of the events it portrays? Of course, Julius Caesar might be said to deal with universal themes such as ambition that can be transferred happily to other situations; but Arcadia's themes are no less universal: what could be more universal than the heat death of the universe, after all? We can of course explain it by noting that there was "a profound change in historical sensibility" between Shakespeare's time and Stoppard's, but sometimes I feel as if we have lost by the bargain.

The other thing that comes to mind is stage directions. Stoppard's are long and detailed, and this has been the fashion for quite a long time (some of Shaw's are mini-essays). I'm not sure who started the practice, but while I see their appeal for readers and to an extent for directors too these directions necessarily (if respected) constrain the freedom of any production to explore and generally mess around with a text. Of course there exist modern dramatic traditions that build in a certain ludic largesse, with opportunities for ad lib and so on, but Stoppard's text is quite fussy in its cleverness and wouldn't work if it weren't. I don't have much of an ear for dialogue, but if I ever wrought a play I think I'd rather leave its top three buttons undone.

In other news - I learn that there is a petition to name a nebula after Madoka. I signed, of course.

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Date: 2014-04-16 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
Just signed it , as it is a lovely nebula.

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Date: 2014-04-16 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
You will be blessed.

Stage directions

Date: 2014-04-16 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightspore.livejournal.com
J.M. Barrie?

Re: Stage directions

Date: 2014-04-16 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
He wrote some whoppers, that's for sure.

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Date: 2014-04-17 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vschanoes.livejournal.com
I would say, rather, that Shakespeare's Julius Caesar is locked into the era in which Shakespeare wrote. It's just that directors feel free to ignore the historical context of Shakespeare. How many Cleopatras have really been burned black by the sun, for example? How many Macbeths stage 17th-century conceptions of witchcraft? In how many historical contexts does the plot of Much Ado About Nothing, with its calling off of weddings based on rumors and duels, really work? Or Shrew, with its mention of leading apes barefoot in hell?

It's just that directors and audiences are so convinced that Shakespeare is "timeless" that they ignore those things and skip over the bits that don't/no longer make sense. How many times have I seen a Shakespeare production set in the 20th century with actors brandishing guns every time they mention swords or daggers? (Answer: all the damn time.)

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Date: 2014-04-17 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
You're right - it's at least as much to do with Shakespeare's era, and of course how they imagined other eras in that era.

I think the most egregious example I've seen of the kind of thing you're talking about is a production of The Revenger's Tragedy (1930s Chicago, oddly enough), where at one point a character exhorts several of his companions to swear on his sword - only to produce a flick knife. Sometimes, size does matter.

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Date: 2014-04-17 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] consonantia.livejournal.com
This makes me think about blog posts and comments (personally, especially--I used to post publicly and thinkily). Sometimes I think posts that are "too" thorough don't leave much room for commenting. So it's a lesser of two evils thing: risk looking like you didn't consider every side, or risk getting only like one point seven comments.

I think there was a graphic recently about how to get Facebook comments. Spell "you're" "your".

But I am glad it was a good production of Arcadia! I saw a good one recently too. <3

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Date: 2014-04-17 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com
Oddly enough, the post that got the greatest number of comments on this blog (it was this one) was also one where I'd put in a lot of effort to cover every angle in advance. But in that case the controversial nature of the topic and its multifariousness overwhelmed (though not undermined) my careful bulwarks.

I think there was a graphic recently about how to get Facebook comments. Spell "you're" "your".

This is true - but what a price to pay!

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Date: 2014-04-17 03:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
I don't have much of an ear for dialogue, but if I ever wrought a play I think I'd rather leave its top three buttons undone.

Prrrrt.

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